tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post113212123615790224..comments2023-05-27T03:17:19.681-07:00Comments on PyroManiac: This is where I am Right NowPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1151878984781242462006-07-02T15:23:00.000-07:002006-07-02T15:23:00.000-07:00Thanks for sharing. I wasn't aware that Adrian Rog...Thanks for sharing. I wasn't aware that Adrian Rogers had passed away, and indeed the Church has lost a prophetic voice. <BR/><BR/>We should pray that dozens more will stand up in his place to preach the Gospel and love people.<BR/><BR/>- Jerry DePoy Jr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132282162434947702005-11-17T18:49:00.000-08:002005-11-17T18:49:00.000-08:00>What offends me even more than the superstition o...>What offends me even more than the superstition of someone who ignorantly think God is giving him private messages is the arrogance of the non-charismatic who pretends to have the gift of interpreting extraordinary providences.< Welcome to the world of Paul Proctor and the obsessed Emergent Church watchers. I'm glad you see this point. It is just as bad as the Benny Hinn and Oral Roberts musings.*I'm in a Hayes * or on a Hunt *<BR/><BR/>Please allow me to explain why I am a continuist though. "And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will *prophesy* one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackloth." Revelation 11:3(Chapter and verse) Brethren that is just the tip of the ice-berg, but that is all needed to prove that cessationism is unscriptural and in and of itself a false prophesy.<BR/><BR/>Keep in mind that the purpose of prophesy is the revelation of Yeshua in which only the Holy Spirit can fulfil. He is not done and neither are His prophets. I consider men like Spurgeon(who would actually consider MaCarthur and his escatology to be in and of itself unwarrented prophesy) Tozer and Vos who whether they be cessy or not are indeed given utterance to make known the glory of Christ. That has always been the purpose of Prophesy and will always be.<BR/><BR/>Also there will be a time when men will be given understanding to know the Mark of the Beast. If the Spirit of Prophesy has ceased then how will this be possible?<BR/><BR/>Despise not prophesies. BTW, I am Pre-Mil but I dare not be dogmatic about it. Why? Because I await prophesy.<BR/><BR/>I have more to say on this but am unsure that others seem to desire this focus. They seem to like facts and figures. Both groups. I wish we could take this into another Arena somehow.Bhedrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091896907803479900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132271806764930232005-11-17T15:56:00.000-08:002005-11-17T15:56:00.000-08:00The appeal of Adrian Rogers' preaching was that he...The appeal of Adrian Rogers' preaching was that he preached the Word with [thundering] <B>authority</B>, but without meanness. <BR/><BR/>Speaking the truth [as best one sees it] in love is still a pretty valuable formula.Terry Rayburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00888533194435826837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132199963259747932005-11-16T19:59:00.000-08:002005-11-16T19:59:00.000-08:00A certain D. Hunt is also busy damning Calvinists ...A certain D. Hunt is also busy damning Calvinists for eternity. Read about it <A HREF="http://mongrelhorde.blogspot.com/2005/11/blight-on-christendom-of-week-is-dave.html" REL="nofollow">here, on the Mongrel Horde network</A>. I'm rather tired of his shennanigans. It's a good thing we're saved by grace and not by our systematic theologies. Too bad Mr. Hunt doesn't think so.Jeremy Feldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04365235864118080729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132194432983430792005-11-16T18:27:00.000-08:002005-11-16T18:27:00.000-08:00Thanks for sharing your memory of Dr. Rogers. I e...Thanks for sharing your memory of Dr. Rogers. I enjoyed Dr. Rogers sermons and will miss him.<BR/><BR/><BR/>On another note...<BR/>I read the news article that Falwell cancelled due to problems with his plane???<BR/><BR/>Please tell me Pastor MacArthur does NOT have a plane.Reneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08098978736719699724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132194059384569492005-11-16T18:20:00.000-08:002005-11-16T18:20:00.000-08:00I will miss Adrian Rogers. I heard his sermons in...I will miss Adrian Rogers. I heard his sermons in a spanish translation and was edified. When I heard his actual voice, I was amazed by it.<BR/><BR/>He is with his Savior and Lord now. What a great man of God!Daniel Callehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201838274181767909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132190860019149762005-11-16T17:27:00.000-08:002005-11-16T17:27:00.000-08:00Though several centuries and several thousand mile...Though several centuries and several thousand miles removed, it appears that Pyromaniac finds himself in exactly the same situation as the Israelites when they were separated from the Promised Land by the Jordan River. Only in this modern-day reenactment it's the Red River that separates Pyromaniac from the great state of Texas!farmboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05445789397476595536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132181914110415962005-11-16T14:58:00.000-08:002005-11-16T14:58:00.000-08:00Frank Turk: In case anyone missed it, the title of...<B>Frank Turk:</B> In case anyone missed it, <A HREF="http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2005/09/free-blog-advice.html" REL="nofollow">the title of this post was a tribute to you.</A><BR/><BR/><B>tmssteve:</B> I haven't read Dr. Waldron's book "The End Times Made Simple" (in either manuscript or book form) and my remarks specifically referred to the books he has written that I have read. However, I doubt very seriously that he suggested "those who hold to a non-amillennial position [cannot] even be saved." The statement you quoted, "The doctrine of last things is a vital part of the Gospel of Christ itself" is true enough in the sense that the bodily return of Christ would seem to be an essential aspect of Christianity.<BR/><BR/>BTW, in my experience, the group who are most likely to treat detailed prophecy charts as tests of faith and wear the fine points of their eschatalogical schemes on their sleeves while spoiling for a fight and looking to excommunicate people over difference about the end times, are premillennialists. <cough><I><B>Dave Hunt</B></I></cough> So perhaps we ought to go easy on <I>this</I> particular criticism against our amillennialist brethren.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132180492796563902005-11-16T14:34:00.000-08:002005-11-16T14:34:00.000-08:00Edit: radio, not radie...Edit: radio, not radie...Sled Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12810818221184023798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132180428247641852005-11-16T14:33:00.000-08:002005-11-16T14:33:00.000-08:00It's been a while since I've dropped in a Panera b...It's been a while since I've dropped in a Panera bread. I surely prefer the Panera "scene" to Starbucks.<BR/><BR/>For what I knew of him, Adrian Rogers seemed like a stand-up guy. Heard him on the radie years ago.Sled Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12810818221184023798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132177726963272432005-11-16T13:48:00.000-08:002005-11-16T13:48:00.000-08:00Bin? Are you sure you are in Oklahoma? Methinks th...Bin? Are you sure you are in Oklahoma? Methinks then that you must indeed read to much Spurgeon.Bhedrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091896907803479900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132169073472129172005-11-16T11:24:00.000-08:002005-11-16T11:24:00.000-08:00I also forgot to mention that Michael Spencer is o...I also forgot to mention that Michael Spencer is on my Christmas list for blogging in 2006.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132167880793402872005-11-16T11:04:00.000-08:002005-11-16T11:04:00.000-08:00I was thinking the same thing about the quaks myse...I was thinking the same thing about the quaks myself.<BR/>Phils a Quaker!LeeChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540608568274871363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132167824611194712005-11-16T11:03:00.000-08:002005-11-16T11:03:00.000-08:00"I really do hate it when people start out a post ..."I really do hate it when people start out a post with "this is where I am right now ..."<BR/><BR/>No offense, but I hate it. Even in a post as good as this one which even mentions me. "<BR/><BR/>Looks like your work is done here Phil. Heh.LeeChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540608568274871363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132167725708065512005-11-16T11:02:00.000-08:002005-11-16T11:02:00.000-08:00What is it with you? Anytime you come to a place ...What is it with you? Anytime you come to a place for the first time, there's an Earthquake.<BR/><BR/>And you say the gifts have ceased? P-shaw!FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132167573687471292005-11-16T10:59:00.000-08:002005-11-16T10:59:00.000-08:00I really do hate it when people start out a post w...I really do hate it when people start out a post with "this is where I am right now ..."<BR/><BR/>No offense, but I hate it. Even in a post as good as this one which even mentions me.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132166967916694462005-11-16T10:49:00.000-08:002005-11-16T10:49:00.000-08:00"Adrian Rogers, the Sooners, Greek salad, Victoria..."Adrian Rogers, the Sooners, Greek salad, Victoria's Secret, grapefruit, cessationism, and the emerging church."<BR/><BR/>"What is . . . a Pyromaniac blogpost."<BR/><BR/>"Right for $400!"Friar Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07884620581392407011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132166080470834532005-11-16T10:34:00.000-08:002005-11-16T10:34:00.000-08:00I won't be able to sleep tonight since you linked ...I won't be able to sleep tonight since you linked to that ant story.<BR/>Thanks a lot.Jeremy Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02552780649310262425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132164494867526162005-11-16T10:08:00.000-08:002005-11-16T10:08:00.000-08:00Accept no substitutes, get the truth from the sour...Accept no substitutes, get the truth from the source!<BR/><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.boarsheadtavern.com/tr_faq.html" REL="nofollow">Who are the Truly Reformed (TRs)?</A></B><BR/><BR/>Just, y'know, since <B>eculeus</B> asked...Kurt N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15761420350409713777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132159969062877422005-11-16T08:52:00.000-08:002005-11-16T08:52:00.000-08:00Phil, while I generally like Dr. Waldron's writing...Phil, while I generally like Dr. Waldron's writing and appreciate his theological clarity, I'm afraid I can't agree with the idea that "all" of his books are good. Specifically, "The End Times Made Simple" is a book I would not recommend. There is a lot of opinion masquerading as "obvious" fact. This one statement, repeated over and over in various ways in his book is extremely disturbing: "The doctrine of last things is a vital part of the Gospel of Christ itself" (p. 28). Does that mean we who do not hold his view are not preaching the Gospel? If that is the case, can those who hold to a non-amillennial position even be saved? I think it is an overstatement on his part, but it is, at the very least, careless.Steve Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489604355551059245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132157819416358012005-11-16T08:16:00.000-08:002005-11-16T08:16:00.000-08:00I miss it, haven't been back in 20 years or so.My ...<-From Norman here.<BR/><BR/>I miss it, haven't been back in 20 years or so.<BR/>My dad taught at OU.<BR/><BR/> BOOMER SOONER!LeeChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540608568274871363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132157617860177632005-11-16T08:13:00.000-08:002005-11-16T08:13:00.000-08:00Ah the power of the sovereign seed spitter. Love ...Ah the power of the sovereign seed spitter. Love it.WEShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03314829986409728560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132156284002929792005-11-16T07:51:00.000-08:002005-11-16T07:51:00.000-08:00Gotta love those truly reformed baptists... Very s...Gotta love those truly reformed baptists... <BR/><BR/>Very sad about Adrian Rogers - there was something almost indulgent about listening to him preach with that voice - like drinking real hot chocolate in my devotions time..Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14873728356115837593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132155779777042022005-11-16T07:42:00.000-08:002005-11-16T07:42:00.000-08:00Charles Sebold:Oh, yeah. I did read it, about a ye...<B>Charles Sebold:</B><BR/><BR/>Oh, yeah. I <I>did</I> read it, about a year ago, when it was in manuscript form and before it had a title and cover art. Somehow that totally slipped my mind when I was writing today's post. That's not a reflection on the quality of the book (which is, actually, excellent); it's just one more sad evidence of what ageing is doing to my already-unreliable memory.<BR/><BR/>So I looked up that endorsement in my e-mail log, and here's the full text of the comments I wrote after reading the manuscript last year:<BR/><BR/>"Cessationism (the view that miraculous spiritual gifts pertained only to the apostolic era) has fallen out of favor in recent years. That's an especially untimely development in an era when so many churches have been disrupted by charismatic confusion—while false miracles and questionable spiritual gifts abound. The primary argument against cessationism seems to be that if there's no decisive proof-text stating that the miraculous gifts have ceased, and no single passage from which a cessationist theology can be exegetically established, then cessationism must be summarily rejected.<BR/><BR/>"But the cessation of the miraculous gifts, the passing of the apostolic era, and the closing of the biblical canon are all interrelated truths, dealing with the very same theological issues. To claim that the spiritual gifts are still operative is as spiritually dangerous as believing that the canon of Scripture is still open. The history of the modern charismatic movement furnishes ample proof that this is true.<BR/><BR/>"Pastor Waldron does an excellent job of establishing the biblical and theological basis for historic cessationism, bringing clarity and sanity to an issue that has too long been dominated by emotion and muddled thinking."<BR/><BR/>Now I'm going to change the text of the blogpost above before anyone else sees it.<BR/><BR/><B>Eculeus:</B> <BR/><BR/><I>TR</I> supposedly means "truly Reformed," and it normally applies to folks who practice a very strict Presbyterianism where either John Calvin or the Scottish covenanters are deemed the epitome of everything orthodox. In that particular forum, however, the label is regularly and liberally used as a veiled reference to James White and the PyroManiac, both of whom are Baptists. So go figure.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1132154603841582722005-11-16T07:23:00.000-08:002005-11-16T07:23:00.000-08:00Great post Phil...so, WOULD you have told him if h...Great post Phil...so, WOULD you have told him if he really hadn't noticed about the seed? ;)<BR/><BR/>Anyways, about the last link ... What is a "TR", and why does certain people at boarsheadtavern seem to hate them so much?eculeushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01410394665116369364noreply@blogger.com