tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post113013532502612866..comments2023-05-27T03:17:19.681-07:00Comments on PyroManiac: Spurgeon on substitutionary atonementPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130262857016209132005-10-25T10:54:00.000-07:002005-10-25T10:54:00.000-07:00Leon Morris has a masterful defense of substitutio...Leon Morris has a masterful defense of substitutionary atonement against those who saw it as "barbaric" and "primitive". Speaking of Leon Morris, check <A HREF="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/08/leon-morris-falls-prey-to-new.html" REL="nofollow"> this </A> out.Sharad Yadavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130209913568474092005-10-24T20:11:00.000-07:002005-10-24T20:11:00.000-07:00I always appreciate Spurgeon and this is a very im...I always appreciate Spurgeon and this is a very important topic.<BR/><BR/>While believers may disagree on the details, how can you not see substitionary atinement in the Bible?<BR/>It's so plain, so obvious. From Adam & Eve to the end of Revelation, God's Word proclaims it.pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06341946961084387134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130194295708247552005-10-24T15:51:00.000-07:002005-10-24T15:51:00.000-07:00Great Post! That is such a good book. I have it he...Great Post! That is such a good book. I have it here on my desk. I understand he liked Calvin and that you do to and thats fine. Spurgeon took all that the reformers wrote and whatever understanding they had, measured it with Scripture and formed and wrote a Masterpiece. You are often left to wonder Who wrote it. He took that masterpiece and blew a trumpet with incredible sound and melody. He was indeed an insrument of God.<BR/><BR/>Unlike some of the reformers...you are never left to wonder where he truly stood.Bhedrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091896907803479900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130186582192191832005-10-24T13:43:00.000-07:002005-10-24T13:43:00.000-07:00"Modern thought is nothing but an attempt to bring..."Modern thought is nothing but an attempt to bring back the legal system of salvation by works. Our battle is the same as that which Luther fought at the Reformation. If you go to the very ground and root of it, grace is taken away, and human merit is substituted."<BR/><BR/>I think that this drive to take away grace and substitue human merit finds more subtle expressions, even among the professed friends of orthodoxy today. <BR/><BR/>Certainly unbelievers still laugh outright at the form and substance of these two doctrines which Spurgeon wrote about. <BR/><BR/>However, some people uphold the doctrine of Justification By Faith, but define faith in such a way that it leaves them some act of their own unaided will to hang on to. It betrays an almost frantic urge among many of the theologically informed (who undersand enough to know what is at stake) to make faith itself another human work. The only acceptable human work, certainly, but a human work nevertheless. <BR/><BR/>Thus Justification By Faith, which Paul makes the champion of Salvation By Grace, is used by Christians today to cage and shackle grace.<BR/><BR/>It's amazing to me how desperate people are to limit God's prerogative to do us good without our permission. This self-destructive drive within human hearts is a primary Sign of the fall.ARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13666571475198046454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130167715445001592005-10-24T08:28:00.000-07:002005-10-24T08:28:00.000-07:00Phil,Thank you for this article, very timely for m...Phil,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for this article, very timely for me personally. Hey, is it just me or does this picture of Mr. Spurgeon look striking similar to William Petersen who plays Gil Grissom on CSI? Spooky.<BR/><BR/>BradBrad Hustonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13034379100231079992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130162999307724742005-10-24T07:09:00.000-07:002005-10-24T07:09:00.000-07:00I am firmly persuaded that the unwilling or cold-h...<I>I am firmly persuaded that the unwilling or cold-hearted preacher of any doctrine is its worst enemy.</I><BR/><BR/>Now there's something to ponder over.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02288648996304246570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130162916972651222005-10-24T07:08:00.000-07:002005-10-24T07:08:00.000-07:00Two things:1. Isn't it strange how you can substit...Two things:<BR/><BR/>1. Isn't it strange how you can substitue the word "postmodern" for "modern" in just about anything Spurgeon wrote and it still applies?<BR/><BR/>2. <B>mrclm</B> said:<BR/><I>"Phil,<BR/>I think next year you could grow a burly beard and go to costume parties as Spurgeon"</I><BR/><BR/>Check this out: <A HREF="http://purgatorio1.blogspot.com/2005/10/separated-at-birth-i.html" REL="nofollow">S.A.B.</A>marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10158311614104904363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130155236312891142005-10-24T05:00:00.000-07:002005-10-24T05:00:00.000-07:00I don't think you can read 2 Corinthians 5 and not...I don't think you can read 2 Corinthians 5 and not beleive that Paul taught that Christ is our substitute. But it seems that some have.Jeremy Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02552780649310262425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130153982183859662005-10-24T04:39:00.000-07:002005-10-24T04:39:00.000-07:00It's amazing how truth proclaimed is relevant for ...It's amazing how truth proclaimed is relevant for all times. That could have easily been written for the events of today. Thank you for sharing it with us.Randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12585154817384821156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130150047029397932005-10-24T03:34:00.000-07:002005-10-24T03:34:00.000-07:00Phil,Thank you so much for sharing Spurgeon with u...Phil,<BR/>Thank you so much for sharing Spurgeon with us today. <BR/><BR/>Markmark piersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882538938829765324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130138078506496702005-10-24T00:14:00.000-07:002005-10-24T00:14:00.000-07:00A timeless truth that needs to be proclaimed. Pau...A timeless truth that needs to be proclaimed. <BR/><BR/>PaulPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16122718707268241285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1130137753717825282005-10-24T00:09:00.000-07:002005-10-24T00:09:00.000-07:00Phil, I think next year you could grow a burly be...Phil,<BR/> I think next year you could grow a burly beard and go to costume parties as Spurgeon. Spurgeon is so timeless. Love the way it makes me think.<BR/><BR/>Big Chris <BR/><A HREF="http://mrclm.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Because I said so</A> blogChris Meirosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717903860701408008noreply@blogger.com