tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post111808412587736355..comments2023-05-27T03:17:19.681-07:00Comments on PyroManiac: Monday Menagerie IPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118421522315620762005-06-10T09:38:00.000-07:002005-06-10T09:38:00.000-07:00Done. Today's our 27th wedding anniversary. I'm bu...Done. Today's our 27th wedding anniversary. I'm burning a copy on CD for Darlene. I hope that's OK.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118413597869097622005-06-10T07:26:00.000-07:002005-06-10T07:26:00.000-07:00Bonnie: point taken. I TOLD you I'm no musician. I...Bonnie: point taken. I TOLD you I'm no musician. I should've posted an .mp3 of myself whistling along with a better recording of the piece. Next time, perhaps.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118169702571534412005-06-07T11:41:00.000-07:002005-06-07T11:41:00.000-07:00Symphony or orchestral music doesn't cover it beca...Symphony or orchestral music doesn't cover it because classical music has more forms than that. <BR/><BR/>solo instrument<BR/>chamber<BR/>concerto<BR/>symphony<BR/>choral<BR/><BR/>(Some is mix and match.)<BR/><BR/>Film soundtrack music gets into the difference between program music (like film music) and absolute music. (There's usually also the matter of emotional levels that gives the music away. Film music is usually mirroring - or provoking - the level of emotion found in the average film, which will be popular level, or common level. The higher levels of music require more attention, some initiation, some knowledge, developed discernment, and some of the seeming eccentricity (compared to more normal/average puruits) of a person who pursues higher influences to begin with.)<BR/><BR/>It's interesting that even the greatest of classical music can be mere background music if you aren't bringing something to it. The highest influences effect one relatively* in this sense. Without (good Biblical word coming up) zeal you get less from the influence. <BR/><BR/>*'relatively' not used in any postmodern sense above. The music itself is what it is (in terms of its absolute level), the level of sleep or awakeness to the music in the hearer is what will be relative...c.t.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02287685119108815245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118162464198243752005-06-07T09:41:00.000-07:002005-06-07T09:41:00.000-07:00That should have read 80s.That should have read 80s.Momohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04292177473341691525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118162411854678872005-06-07T09:40:00.000-07:002005-06-07T09:40:00.000-07:00That kind of music gives me flashbacks to my days ...That kind of music gives me flashbacks to my days in IFBx. You'll have to have read the Tales to understand. I do enjoy it every once in a while, though.<BR/><BR/>Could an alternative term be symphony or orchestral music? I think modern writers of movie themes are in a class with the old composers too, but hey, I grew up in the *0s. What do you expect?Momohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04292177473341691525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118151233534916152005-06-07T06:33:00.000-07:002005-06-07T06:33:00.000-07:00Yes, I know classical can be used generically. I w...Yes, I know classical can be used generically. I was being intentionally obtuse. It's OK, my wife doesn't think I'm funny, either.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10658215452617342095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118128496583652502005-06-07T00:14:00.000-07:002005-06-07T00:14:00.000-07:00Phil, why not list your favorite composers? It's ...Phil, why not list your favorite composers? It's a way to let people know about you, or just to promote composers...<BR/><BR/>My top ten specific works (not necessarily in this order) -<BR/><BR/>1. Beethoven's String Quartet in C sharp minor (actually all the late string quartets)<BR/><BR/>2. Mozart's 38th (and 41st) Symphony (actually all the final six symphonies)<BR/><BR/>3. Sibelius' 2nd Symphony<BR/><BR/>4. Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier<BR/><BR/>5. Bach's Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin<BR/><BR/>6. Beethoven's 3rd (and 7th) Symphony (Furtwangler's 1942 Berlin live recording (BPO) of the 9th is titanic)<BR/><BR/>7. Palestrina's Missa Papae Marcelli and Missa Brevis (Byrd, Victoria, Dufay as well)<BR/><BR/>8. Beethoven's late Piano Sonatas<BR/><BR/>9. Bruckner's 4th (and 7th, 8th, and 9th) Symphony<BR/><BR/>10. Beethoven Missa Solemnis<BR/><BR/>I cheated...c.t.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02287685119108815245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118121533082524292005-06-06T22:18:00.000-07:002005-06-06T22:18:00.000-07:00Ravel (note spelling) was an impressionist who exp...Ravel (note spelling) was an impressionist who experimented with neo-classical, baroque dance, and even jazz styles.<BR/><BR/>But it's OK to use the word "classical" to describe all kinds of serious music—in contrast to rock, rap, folk, easy listening, and CCM. Note that the record companies' "classical" labels publish everything from Palestrina to John Adams.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118118695931420552005-06-06T21:31:00.000-07:002005-06-06T21:31:00.000-07:00The term 'classical music' is the overarching term...The term 'classical music' is the overarching term for some Renaissance music (Palestrina can be called 'classical music') to baroque to classical to romantic to modern such as Debussy, but it probably doesn't apply to minimalists like Adams or people like Cage, yet there is of course much modern 'classical' music being composed (string quartets you would include under that term, etc.). <BR/><BR/>Classical music as an 'era' or specific type is, say, Haydn to Beethoven prior to the Eroica symphony.<BR/><BR/>Caveat: everything above can be nit-picked. I've speaking in very general terms. <BR/><BR/>Other terms have been attempted to be put forth to replace the confusing 'classical music' such as 'art music', but none of them have caught on... <BR/><BR/>What really separates 'classical' music, for me, from popular music is the level of emotion or intellect or both in the music. Beethoven's late string quartets evoke higher levels of emotion than popular music, which tend to exist at the sentimental level of emotion or giddy level or nostalgia level or high energy of youth level or 'all things love' level. <BR/><BR/>Of course there is popular level music within music that is called classical. A Strauss waltz would be a blatant example, but alot of party type music that a Mozart could turn out in his sleep would qualify too. Divertimenti, that type of thing. <BR/><BR/>The work of classical music that truly scale the heights are not that many. Works like Mozart's last six symphonies, Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier or Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin, Beethoven's late string quartets or Missa Solemnis or 3rd symphony...these and other summit level works of classical music are rare and relatively few in number compared to the entire body of classical music...c.t.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02287685119108815245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118117357186291072005-06-06T21:09:00.000-07:002005-06-06T21:09:00.000-07:00I feel obligated to inform you that Ravell is not ...I feel obligated to inform you that Ravell is not classical, he's romantic. The obligation stems from the immature need to pretend I know more than someone who is clearly smarter than I am.<BR/><BR/>Great blog, Phil.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10658215452617342095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118114457558564692005-06-06T20:20:00.000-07:002005-06-06T20:20:00.000-07:00Love the post... I've always made the point that a...Love the post... I've always made the point that artist-types seem to be bent to eccentricity.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you can create of feature called: Freak of the Week<BR/><BR/>;)Nutriaboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14980789722948332711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118104082245711632005-06-06T17:28:00.000-07:002005-06-06T17:28:00.000-07:00Wow.... I knew us 'musician' types were weirder th...Wow.... I knew us 'musician' types were weirder than others in some quarters, but this guy makes me look <I>normal</I>. TOO normal. Thanks for the enlightenment, Phil. I'll check out some of his stuff when I get a break.<BR/><BR/>Kerry<BR/>Random Apologist-African-American-Calvinist and Musician....BlackCalvinist aka G.R.A.C.E. Preechahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15932595078017549317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118098130046422122005-06-06T15:48:00.000-07:002005-06-06T15:48:00.000-07:00Renaissance MassHandelBachMozart BeethovenBruckner...Renaissance Mass<BR/>Handel<BR/>Bach<BR/>Mozart <BR/>Beethoven<BR/>Bruckner<BR/><BR/>then? 20th century?<BR/><BR/>Sibelius<BR/>Shostokovich<BR/>then you have to throw in some of the French dudes who are pleasant enough...<BR/><BR/>I at one time was a 33rd degree initiate into classical music and recordings. After hearing everything I was only left with 20th century composers and recordings (and I mean post-WWII), that I couldn't say I was thoroughly knowledgable of, and I left it all. But I periodically do epic listening sessions to the great works (I have too many classic recordings to not use them) to re-infuse them into my being.c.t.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02287685119108815245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118090274144826682005-06-06T13:37:00.000-07:002005-06-06T13:37:00.000-07:00Satie is an aquired taste in my book...but I under...Satie is an aquired taste in my book...but I understand what you're driving at Philip.<BR/><BR/>"I think our love for the beauty, humor, and artistry of creaturely creativity is also an expression of the imago Dei." <BR/><BR/>Agreed, but I've always wondered if such passions also aren't a higher cry in our seach for His perfection, approval and love.<BR/><BR/>BradBrad Hustonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13034379100231079992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12723103.post-1118087654001880122005-06-06T12:54:00.000-07:002005-06-06T12:54:00.000-07:00If we are created in His image, would we not also ...If we are created in His image, would we not also be made with a desire to create? A simple look around is enough to realize the great joy God must take in building, forming, combining. Because of this, we have an inherent desire to construct. <BR/><BR/>Whether it be art, concept or purpose is irrelevant; we search for ways to put together the materials that surround us. It is exciting to see something come from nothing.frostykaiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04470523283547292978noreply@blogger.com